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HOT
PRESS October 1987
INTERVIEW WITH TOM ROBINSON
By Damian Corless
In Dublin recently to lend his support to the AIDS Action Alliance all-star
Olympic Ballroom bash, Tom Robinson took time out to reflect on his Spokesman
For A Generation past, his nervous breakdowns, his sexual re-orientation
and his re-embracement of the Quaker faith.
The official opening of the new Cairde headquarters is in full swing. Inside
the main chamber amid the clutter of cameras, microphones, leaflets and wine
glasses, the inevitable speeches are underway. Edging through the knot of guests
spilling out into the hallway, a late arrival cranes his neck forward in an effort
to catch some of the proceedings. Nobody pauses to give the tall, overcoated
figure a second glance. The following night the same individual picks his way
towards the front of the Olympic Ballroom, through a throng captivated by the
beer-throwing antics of Blue In Heaven. Again, nobody, recognises Tom Robinson.
A
far cry indeed from the singer's stint under the public gaze when, at the helm
of the Tom Robinson Band and as a champion of Gay Rights, Rock Against Racism
and whatever-you're-having-yourself, he offered an articulate and positive dimension
to the Pistols' wanton destructiveness and The Clash's sour disenchantment as
the first wave of punk crashed into the charts. Delusions of messianic grandeur
and a dodgy second album contributed to a lightning fall from popular and critical
grace which in turn led to a splitting of the TRB and sent Tom Robinson heading
for a nervous breakdown (his second) at age 30.
Relieved of the burden of being Spokesman For A Generation, Robinson
gradually rehabilitated himself psychologically and resuscitated his career,
enjoying a hard-won second coming in 1983 with the intensely personal Big Hit "War
Baby" and the magnificent Near Miss, "Atmospherics". just back from a
promotional jaunt around Italy where he's currently much in demand, Tom Robinson
looks fit and relaxed with barely a line on his sallow face to betray the fact
he's notched up thirty-eight years on the planet.
While many gays have expressed
fears that the AIDS scare might have put the cause of Gay Rights back ten or
twenty years, Robinson offers a more optimistic reading of events: "In America
now, which is five years ahead of here in almost everything - and AIDS is no
exception - it has now turned around because the wider community is very impressed
at the way the gay community has put its house in order and at the way they've
coped with fortitude with terrible suffering and with the way they've looked
after all AIDS victims. Can I rephrase that ? All AIDS patients. I think that-on
a whole, respect for the Gay community has gone up in America - though I think
we're a long way from that in these islands at the moment."
The change of emphasis from "victims" to "patients" he explains, saying
"The whole thing we're talking about in this campaign is not dying from
AIDS but living with it. You can compare it to wild animals that are locked up
and they lie in a corner and die. An important factor in people who've contacted
AIDS continuing to live - and to live a full and healthy life - is self-belief,
and the awareness they can continue. Once they begin to treat themselves as victims
they begin to lose that battle."
Tom Robinson has taken an AIDS test. For peace of mind ? "I don't like
surprises," he replies, "It's a useful reinforcer. If you come out positive
it means you must be responsible and careful towards others from then on, and
if you come out negative you make damn sure you stay that way."
Tom Robinson has retained from his Quaker upbringing a belief in and
a respect for "tolerance and non-violence. At school we were actively
encouraged to support the likes of Amnesty International and voluntary service
overseas was something the 6th formers regularly went on to do. A concern for
others and about the world and an opposition to war and violence have stayed
with me. It seems to be the one branch of Christianity that states those things
categorically."
Robinson is reluctant to go into the specifics of his first nervous breakdown
(at age 16) which led to a six year stay living amongst a therapeutic community.
He bemoans the stigma which prevents the victims of emotional disturbance from
seeking professional help: "If you break a leg you go
straight to a doctor and yet if someone finds it terribly uncomfortable
to be themselves from day to day and is in bad distress, unless they're actually
going out and breaking windows it's very hard to convince anyone to take them
seriously. I suppose I was in trouble and I found it very hard to communicate...
But
he did find a way. "Well, it was a suicide attempt, which no headmaster
likes to have going on on the premises. But if there are young people reading
this who are really going through hell and they can't get to anybody - don't
wait 'til it gets to the point where you've got to actually start cutting your
wrists. For Christ's sake, therapy is there ! It takes a long time, it isn't
easy, but it works."
In the therapeutic community, Tom Robinson learnt guitar and clarinet
and teamed up with guitarist Danny Kustow with whom he later founded the TRB. "So it turned out to be a godsend," he reflects, "But up to the point
of going in it just seemed as if the whole world had closed in with no
way forward and no way out. Just despair." Did that despair coincide with
a loss of religious faith? "Yeah," he answers. "I've only regularly started
reattending meetings over the last 2 - 3 years. I was going past the meeting
house one Sunday and there was just this sign saying 'A meeting for worship
after the manner of the Society Of Friends is held here every Sunday -
all are welcome.'And I just went 'Thank you!' and went in." Since then,
Robinson has kept up his reawakened association with the Quakers, terming
their quiet, meditative approach "a very interesting way to worship."
Maintaining "It's been a far harder struggle as a solo-artist than as
a band," the singer argues that "Had TRB been more robust as people, and
been able to settle our differences and stick together, I anticipate we
would now be in a stronger position career-wise than any of us as individuals
find ourselves in." He admits that the cult of personality - directed
exclusively at himself - took its toll on relationships within the band:
"Bob Geldof gave up the unequal struggle after a while. I certainly did.
Whose ego can withstand it in the end?"
So it came to a point where, in spite of the best intentions, you begin
to believe - and to assert - that you were the Tom Robinson Band ? "And
from the others as well. When you've had a couple of hit records having been
on the dole and playing in pubs for a year you all become experts. You had the
drummer telling me how to write songs and me telling him how to play drums."
In addition to the regular pressures besetting a newly-successful pop
group, TRB had to cope with the fact they'd become a focus point for an entire
generation of hopeful, campaigning youth. The trouble is that you get messianic
after a 'while," the singer now concedes. "If enough people
tell you you're wonderful for long enough, you can't help but start believing
it ... It got to the stage where a journalist would say "Tom, what do
you think is the solution to the problems in Northern Ireland?" and I
would have the gall to tell him. Instead of saying 'No idea mate. What do you
think?' which is the only honest answer. So that was the struggle that was going
on aside from the one of 'Can we write another hit record or not?' And when you
couldn't write another hit record, nobody gave a toss about your thoughts on
Northern Ireland"
In 1980, with TRB defunct and Robinson's latest vehicle Sector 27 conspicuously
stiffing, the singer suffered another nervous breakdown. "I think it was
a result of taking it all too seriously," he reflects, "As I say, after
a while you start believing in all the positive press which means that
you then have to believe it when you start getting slagged off something
rotten." A piece of historical revisionism by Melody Maker around that
time, exemplified and compounded Robinson's plight: "Between '77 and
'78 in one form or another my photo appeared eight times on their front cover
- at the end of '79 they did a survey of the seventies in which my name did not
appear once."
Slowly, he picked up the pieces, discovering "The hardest thing is getting
anyone to take you seriously" when you're perceived as the faded flavour
of a long bygone month. Robinson hawked the finished "War Baby" around
a seemingly endless circuit of record company execs: "They'd listen to
the first minute of it and say 'Have you got anything else?' or 'Who are you
going to get to produce it?' and then a couple of months later, when it's on
all the radio stations, the same people are saying 'I always knew it was good'
or 'Fancy coming out for dinner then?' BASTARDS!"
The success of "War Baby" put Robinson's career on a secure footing and
these days he's happy to report "I earn enough to make the next record,
which is all-important. And I own my own 24-track studio which is also very important
'cause it means that in true Karl Marx fashion I control the means of production
and no longer have to go cap in hand to the record companies and ask 'Please
can I make a record?'"
Learning from harsh experience, Tom Robinson approached success second
time around "with a large handful of salt." In response to criticism that
the TRB sometimes closely resembled Rent-A-Cause (of the give- us-an-issue-and-we'll-put-a-tune-to-it
variety), the singer openly admits "It was. I'd go along with that. Its
big failing was that two dimensional aspect. It got very messianic, so you'd
go to, say, San Francisco and find out that Proposition 9 was the current issue,
or Cause B should be supported because the workers there were on strike, and
you'd get up on the stage and shout 'Hello, Cause B!' -I've seen people since,
doing the same thing, and cringed. But if I was the same person, in the same
circumstances, under the same pressure, I'd probably do the same all over again."
Robinson maintains his distance from the ranks of cynics who proclaim
pop's impotence to effect social change. "It isn't pop music that changes
anything," he argues, "It's the audience. But for the pop fan to have
access to some form of music that reflects their own beliefs is very important.
For someone to go to a concert where they can be with 3,000 other people who
share their beliefs is enormously helpful. It's then they'll go out and make
an issue of racism in the pub, or pick their friend up for referring to 'that
dodgy boiler over there' - that's the level at which change occurs. It's not
because a right-wing student goes to a Red Wedge gig and suddenly sees the light.
That doesn't happen."
The big 40 is looming for Tom Robinson in the not-too-distant future.
Does he feel he's meeting middle age gracefully? "You'd have to ask someone
who's eighteen whether that guy they see poncing about on stage with a
guitar is graceful or not," he replies. "What is for sure is that artists
and their audience grow old together. I think there's a place for musicians of
my generation trying to reflect how life feels to you personally in a way that
reflects how we all feel."
Ten years ago, Tom Robinson told Hot Press he was happy and fulfilled.
Could he claim that now ? "Yes. I am happy. I can only wish for another ten years as good as the
last ten and I'll have no complaints."
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